What the hell does Lyndon Antcliff Know about Linkbait

by Patrick Altoft on / 13 responses

Lyndon Antcliff has become one of the most notorious linkbait experts after a recent high profile project involving a hoax story was publicly “outed”.

The fallout from this has driven Lyndon underground to launch an exclusive new linkbait coaching program.

I decided to interview Lyndon to find out the truth about what’s been going on and see if he really knows how to linkbait.

Hi Lyndon, the fallout from the hoax linkbait was pretty convenient happening a few weeks before you launched a coaching program. Was it all just a big linkbait ploy?

Yes I always like to get Fox News to cover my linkbait before a product launch ;) The reality of the situation was, I had been trying to launch a coaching program for many months now. A number of people who have been moaning at me to get my finger out and crack on with it will testify to this.

A moment happened, and moments like this happen probably once every two years. Where you are faced with something that is much bigger than yourself, and you have to decide where you want it to take you.

It’s been a surreal trip, something that I would love to take all the credit for. But, I realise that I was actually a very tiny piece of this. I think I tapped into some kind of online social consciousness and raised an issue that people wanted to address. I think I happened to be in the right place at the right time with the right kind of linkbait.

So, although I did write something specifically designed to push the buttons of a specific social tribe, I think the resultant kerfuffle was more to do with a collective need for a debate on the subject.

Therefore, what I mean to say is I saw the opportunity, decided the time was right to do what I had been planning for some time.

A lot of people have heard about linkbait and have even tried it. What separates the thousands of unsuccessful linkbait articles published every week from the ones that actually go viral?

It’s actually very simple. The successful ones give people something that makes them want to tell someone else about it. Be it in the form of a link, sending an IM or telling people about it on your radio show.

So, the trick is being able to craft something into a thing that inspires the reader to pass it on, without telling the reader that is what your goal it. On that note I think some people would like to pass a law where all viral marketing and linkbait was all labeled as thus.

Perhaps Google will be coming out with a linkbait meta tag in the future.

To me, the word that separates the two is “seduction”, and I absolutely mean this in the romantic sense. People must fall in love with the content. It has an emotional connection between it and the reader. Rationality is irrelevant, and that’s why I think the Ralph Hardy story had such strong legs, people suspended their disbelief because it was such a wonderful story. It hit them in a very emotional place. I haven’t time or space here to deconstruct the pychological motivators of the piece but it managed to reach into parts of the mind that other linkbait does not reach.

For most people Digg is the first stop for linkbait and, rightly or wrongly, it can make or break a linkbait piece. Given the huge difficulty of getting e-commerce sites onto Digg what suggestions do you have for success in this area?

Diggers like anyone respond to those who give them respect. So if some e-commerce site simply treats digg like it’s own personal traffic bank, it’s going to fail. But, if it learns how to interact and hold discourse with the digg tribe, that tribe will pay back in kind.

Getting into specifics, I would first define what the e-commerce site’s objectives are. Any campaign wishing to attract diggers to their content must take this into account. There are lots of obvious technical things like having little advertising on the page, keep corporate branding to the minimum etc.

But, the essential thing they must do is present something to the tribe which they will accept and honour. Rather than making them respond by burying you in the sand, dribbling honey over your head and adding the flesh eating ants.

The problem e-commerce sites have is they do not speak the digg tribal language, they need interpreters, which is where professional linkbaiters come in.

The success of a story can often depend on the trust social media users place in the source it’s published on. A breaking story published on the BBC stands a much better chance of getting links than the identical story on a small blog. What steps can small blogs take to solve this and appear more credible?

digg is always going to give the bigger publishers the advantage, I constantly see sites like the Times.co.uk and dailymail.co.uk make the front page with content I know would fail on smaller sites.

Make sure the content is submitted by a digg power user, if it’s great content a digger would love to do it as they love getting the front page too. Also, improve your social network, make it big enough so that the same people don’t digg your stuff all the time. This can be a job in itself. A lot of popular blogs have a large enough fan base for this not to be a problem.

But, doing those things are pointless if the content you are starting out with is poor quality. Your content must be the best it can possibly be.

Teaching people how to linkbait is a tricky business. What will you do if some of your clients are a lost cause?

Lol, take them out the back and shoot them. I think the people who are motivated to join such a course and lay down 200 readies for the chance to be coached in such techniques already have the correct attitude. To me, it’s all about attitude.

Most blogs out there touch on the practical aspects of linkbait, which is great. But, few touch on the theory and it’s understanding the theoretical aspect which will turn you into a success. Most people learn this without even knowing, by repeated application and experimentation.

So, if I can break down the theory into practical application and get people to come to an understanding of how the constituent elements brings together a great piece of linkbait I think I can teach anyone who is properly motivated and has the right attitude.

Have you ever had to give up on a project because it was impossible to linkbait for?

No, there is always some angle. I have wished I could give up on some clients, as some come to me with unrealistic expectations. But, most of the time you can come up with something, the problem is, will the client allow you to go down that path to make the content desirable enough for people to be attracted to it.

I am no longer taking new clients though so hopefully will never have this problem again.

Some websites are impossible to bait links for because they are just static 5 page brochure sites. If your client was in an industry full of these sites what steps would you recommend they took to find link targets?

If the client does not allow you to create content on their site, getting links to that site is going to be tricky. Although if we discount linkbait for such clients there are a number of creative ways to get links and there are also some “old school” linkbuilding techniques that can be applied.

Basically it’s about looking at the motivation behind another webmaster dropping a link to the specific site. If there is nothing of worth to link to, you have to start thinking about getting creative and putting on your grey or even blackhat. Depending of course on the amount of risk the client is willing to take.

What is your favourite headline of all time (excluding fake ones)?

I would have to say my favourite is “Soviet Revolt Grows”, I managed to nab the large poster from an Evening Standard newspaper box, back in 1991 I think. It was on my wall for many years.

But, “Boy Eats Own Head”, is a classic from the National Enquirer.

Thanks Lyndon.

Patrick Altoft is Director of Search at Branded3, a Leeds SEO & Digital Agency specialising in SEO, Web Design, Development & Social Media.

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Peter Berk
June 13, 2008 at 9:03pm

It seems that while stroking Lyndon’s ego you have overlooker the fact that money.co.uk is penalized?

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June 13, 2008 at 11:33pm

I was the one who discovered money.co.uk was penalised.

Being good at linkbait is an aggressive SEO technique. You win some and you lose some. In the case of money.co.uk Lyndon did well but Google manually intervened. Not much you can do about that.

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Peter Berk
June 14, 2008 at 1:31pm

While some people think Lyndoman is a fantastic linkbaiter – which he probably is. They need to bear in mind what pain he has probably caused with his selfish self-promotional behavior.

Can you imagine saying to the CEO of money.co.uk “oh well, you win some you lose some”?

Google wouldn’t have intervened if Lyndon hadn’t outted the story. it would have come and gone with good results for the client.

At the end of the day, it’s Lyndon who got the site penalized. I noticed he’s not so vocal about the story now, shouting from every pillar of the Internet that he was the one that created it.

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Doug Heil
June 14, 2008 at 3:06pm

LOL Total bullocks. Sorry Patrick.

LyndBait wrote:
“So, although I did write something specifically designed to push the buttons of a specific social tribe, I think the resultant kerfuffle was more to do with a collective need for a debate on the subject.”

Push the buttons? How about lie and cheat and deceive and con people into reading and believing?

A need for a debate about this? Heck no; lying and deceiving needs no debate. Those who praise this are just as unethical as the person who wrote this and stuck this on a financial website which USE TO BE TRUSTED by the public. Doing all of this for the incoming links in order to cheat Google.

yeah, good stuff indeed.

I’ll make a prediction; The major se’s will greatly discount, if not totally start ignoring all social type sites and other so-called news found on them for any link value. They will do this within 6 months time. People like Lyndon will be out of a job, and none too soon.

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June 14, 2008 at 6:02pm

But if getting on the front page of Digg gets you a link from the BBC or CNN they can’t ignore that.

They have to count *some* links.

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Peter Berk
June 14, 2008 at 8:17pm

All of the links to the hooker article have been discounted, so what’s the point in that? BBC or CNN or the damn Whitehouse, they all don’t count.

Lyndoman’s linkbait was hyper successful for a while and then it screwed the site. At the end of the day this fell flat on it’s face and took the site with it as collateral damage.I bet the guys a money.co.uk wish they had never hired him? T will tell if they release a statement of some sort.

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June 15, 2008 at 1:24am

Hard to really grasp the masterfulness of making something up to get links.

Actually writing something real that gets links…now THAT would be masterful. One can only hope that it’s the latter that Lyndon is teaching in his course, and not the former.

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June 15, 2008 at 1:57am

Sorry, Patrick. Not your most inspiring of posts and certainly beneath your normally excellent analytical standards. Reads more like a puff-piece for a mate who’s found himself in hot water than a real analysis of the question posed by the title. No hard questions asked. Nothing except the most basic scratching of the surface. Even the links out of the post to demonstrate the debate are only to Lyndon’s own site, thereby failing to fully disclose both sides of the debate for new readers. Incredibly one-sided and therefore lacking in any value.

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June 15, 2008 at 7:16pm

The post wasn’t really intended to be inspiring or to promote any debate about the issue.

I just had a few questions for Lyndon and thought people might want to read the questions and his responses.

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June 15, 2008 at 5:52am

if you think this was controversial or not I love the creativity

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June 15, 2008 at 7:27pm

As an aside, I’m wondering why my post here brings up a photo avatar from mybloglog of someone else who works at my company, High Rankings? Weird!

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